We’ve all heard it. Lately, it seems to be the phrase of choice for high-profile figures and spiritual leaders announcing their shift into plural marriage. Fasting, praying, and receiving “divine confirmation”—it sounds deeply spiritual. But it raises an uncomfortable question:

Is plural marriage actually God’s design, or are we using spiritual language to validate our own desires?

In Part 1 of this Thrive episode, the hosts dive straight into the deep end of this conversation. They aren’t here to throw stones, lecture, or pass judgment from a distance. But when personal choices are framed as God’s stamp of approval, they become teachings—and teachings deserve to be examined.

Here is a glimpse of what is on the table in this episode:

• Grace vs. Design: Why God’s grace in our imperfect situations doesn’t mean every lifestyle choice reflects His original plan.
• Descriptive vs. Prescriptive: Just because polygamy happened in the Bible, does that mean God approved it? (Wait until you hear their down-to-earth analogy about supporting a pregnant teenage daughter).
• The Old Testament “Receipts”: A raw look at the households of Abraham, Jacob, David, and Solomon, and what Scripture reveals about the real-world consequences, jealousy, and rivalry that followed.
• The Creation Pattern: What Genesis and Jesus’ words in Matthew 19 say about the “one flesh” covenant.

With 42 years of marriage between them, personal honesty, and plenty of humor, the hosts unpack the strain, the headlines, and the hard questions without shying away from what the text actually says.

Whether you’ve scrolled past the news and wondered what Scripture has to say, or you’re trying to navigate how to respond when “God told me” is used as an ultimate defense, this conversation is one you don’t want to miss.

Click here to listen to Part 1 now!